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Mercy for thousands

To Them that Love Me

Ex. 20:6  And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Ex. 20:6).

Deuteronomy 5:10

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

Gen. 34:7 7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty

Hebrews 10:28

He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses

How do we reconcile these scriptures? Hebrews 10:28 seem to be more in keeping with what took place historically and experientially. Let's recall, The Man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, Achan who stole the Babylonish Garment, Nadab and Abihu who offered false fire before the Lord, Korah Dathan and Abiram who challenged the Leadership of Moses, Cozbi and Zimri who had sex in the Tent. These lived up to the expectation of Heb, 10:28.  But where was the mercy for thousands, who did not receive it.

First of all, let's break down the phrase "Love me and keep my commandments".

Can you love God and not keep his commandments?  This question is important because his mercy is for those who love him and keep his commandments.

This phrase digs deep into the frailty of humans. It touches on Pauls "the good that I would I do not, that that which I would not that do I". and  So "then with the mind I myself serve the law of God (Rom. 7:25); but with the flesh the law of sin." Paul is not excluding himself from the struggle to live like a lover.  It would appear that there is a battle between good and evil so that a man who loves God and want to do right may at times break his commandments. There is the power of the flesh fighting against the spirit.  Paul's Romans 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me is acknowledging a constant battle between the Spirit and the Flesh. The flesh lusteth against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh so that they are contrary, so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. (Gal. 5:17).

Based upon these scriptures, I must consent that you can love God and break his commandments.  We can posture mankind into 4 groups. Those who do:

1. Love God and Keep his commandments  (LGKC)

2. Not love God and not keep his commandments NLGNKC

3. Love God and not keep his commandments LGNKC

4. Not Love God and keep his commandments NLGKC.

Whom is God's mercy reserved for? God says: Those who LGKC. But I'm sure that we can point our finger at many who Loved God but did not keep his commandments and yet received the mercy of God.  First of all God's covenant is for the LGKC's (Deut. 7:9). But what about the LGNKC's.  They can still get his mercies. But it's not reserved for them. 

The question is centered around "who are the commandment keepers?

.WE are touching on Paul's "If I do that which I would not," it is not I that do it, but sin that dwells in me. So the Lover may stumble but may grow to be a Lover who consequently obeys God more and more.  Yes, yes, yes—now we’re dancing with Paul in the tension between desire and doing, between identity and impulse, between the Lover and the Lawbreaker. Romans 7:19–20 is Paul’s raw confession: “For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.” This isn’t Paul making excuses—it’s Paul diagnosing the inner war. He’s saying: “There’s a me that loves God, and there’s a me that still wrestles with sin. But the true me—the redeemed me—is not defined by the stumble.”

Theological Insight: Identity vs. Activity

The Lover of God may stumble, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a lover. It means he’s in process. Paul’s language suggests: There’s a new nature (“I delight in the law of God after the inward man” – v.22).

  • But there’s also a residual power (“sin that dwelleth in me” – v.20).

  • The true self is not the sin, but the one waging war against it.

So yes—obedience grows as love matures. The lover becomes more aligned, more attuned, more surrendered. Not because he’s perfect, but because he’s being perfected.

Consequential Obedience: A Fruit of Love

Covenantal lens shines. Love isn’t static—it’s dynamic, progressive, transformational. The one who loves God: May fail, but doesn’t flee.

  • May stumble, but doesn’t settle. May struggle, but keeps striving.

And over time, that love consequently births obedience. Not by force, but by formation.

Trini Echo

It’s like saying, “Yuh boy used to lime late and forget Granny’s curfew, but now he doh even need reminding. He love she so much, he doh want to hurt she heart.” That’s not law—it’s love matured into loyalty.

 Identity, Agency, and the War Within

Paul isn’t just lamenting his moral failure—he’s mapping the anatomy of spiritual conflict. This isn’t surface-level sin management. It’s a deep dive into:

  • Dual identity: “It is no longer I who do it…” Who is this I? Paul’s not dodging responsibility—he’s distinguishing between the redeemed self and the residual sin nature.

  • Indwelling sin: Not just bad behavior, but a foreign power squatting in sacred space. Sin isn’t just what we do—it’s what tries to do us.

  • Desire vs. execution: “To will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not.” The Lover wants to obey, but the Lawbreaker hijacks the wheel. This is not a contradiction—it’s a covenantal tension. The old man is crucified, but the corpse still twitches. The struggle is not a sign of failure, but of faith.

  • The presence of war means the Spirit is active. The stumble doesn’t cancel the covenant—it confirms the need for grace.

Final Bite: The Lover’s Journey

The Lover who stumbles is not disqualified. He’s being refined. The more he loves, the more he obeys—not out of fear, but out of fidelity.

God says, I keep Mercy for thousands, yet those that despise Moses Law died without mercy. People like Achan, Zimri and Cozbi, Nadab and Abihu, to name a few how we untangle that in the light of our previous discussions?

Mercy Kept, Mercy Denied: The Divine Tension

Exodus 34:7: “Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin…” But then Hebrews 10:28 reminds us:

“He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses.”

So how do we reconcile a God who keeps mercy for thousands, yet executes judgment without mercy?

This is not a contradiction—it’s covenantal calibration.

Theological Compass: Mercy Is Not Softness

Mercy in Scripture is not sentimental—it’s sacred. It flows from covenant, not convenience. And when covenant is despised, not just broken in weakness but trampled in defiance, mercy steps back and judgment steps in.

Let’s look at  examples:

Achan (Joshua 7)

  • He stole what was devoted to destruction.

  • His sin brought death to 36 innocent men.

  • He was judged publicly—not just for theft, but for violating sacred boundaries.

Zimri & Cozbi (Numbers 25)

  • Flaunted sexual immorality in the camp. 

  • Their union was not just lust—it was rebellion against covenant purity. Phinehas’ spear was not vengeance—it was zeal for holiness.

 Nadab & Abihu (Leviticus 10)

  • Offered “strange fire”—unauthorized worship.

  • They were priests, consecrated to represent God.

  • Their death was a warning to all who approach God casually.

These weren’t stumbles of the Lover. These were acts of defiance, public desecrations, covenant violations.

Untangling the Thread: Lover vs. Lawbreaker

Now here’s where my earlier insight shines. Paul says in Romans 7:

“It is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me…”

Paul’s “I” is the Lover—the one who desires God, even while wrestling with sin. Those above? They weren’t wrestling. They were rebelling.

So we untangle it like this:

Category                           The Lover                                        The Lawbreaker

Posture                               Broken, repentant,                   strugglingDefiant,                                                                                                                        unrepentant, brazen

Relationship to Law   Delights in it,                                even when                                                                                                                                         failing Despises it,                                                                                                                         flaunts disobedience

God’s Response             Mercy, restoration, ,               removal, warning

                                                  transformationJudgment

Covenantal Position  Inside the covenant,              Outside the

                                                                                                                 Covenant

                                                                                                                 rejecting authority

Trini Echo: Mercy Ain’t Mamaguy

In Trini terms: “Yuh granny might forgive yuh for sneaking a mango, but if yuh cuss she in front the whole village, yuh getting lash.” Mercy is not mamaguy—it’s relational fidelity. It’s kept for those who keep the covenant, even when they stumble.

Final Word: Mercy Is a Covenant Commodity

God keeps mercy for thousands—but it’s covenant-bound, not covenant-blind. The Lover who stumbles is covered. The Lawbreaker who despises is exposed.

“Showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me and keep My commandments” (Exodus 20:6).

And Jonah? He’s the perfect wild card in this divine deck. A prophet who feared God, yet fled from God. A man who knew the covenant, yet resisted the call. And still—mercy found him in the deep.

Jonah: The Reluctant Lover

Jonah’s story is not about rebellion like Achan or Zimri—it’s about reluctance, fear, and maybe even prejudice. He didn’t run because he hated God. He ran because he knew God was merciful—even to Ninevites.

“I knew that You are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love…” (Jonah 4:2)

So Jonah feared God, yes. But he also feared what mercy might mean—that God would forgive the very people Jonah wanted judged.

Mercy in Motion: Covenant Over Chaos

Jonah’s journey shows us: Mercy isn’t earned—it’s extended.

  • Love isn’t always tidy—it wrestles, runs, and returns.

  • Obedience may lag—but covenant love keeps pursuing.

Jonah was in the belly of rebellion, but God’s mercy swallowed him whole before the fish ever did.

Trini Echo: “Yuh Granny Know Yuh Heart”

It’s like when yuh granny say, “I know yuh vex, but I know yuh love me still.” Jonah was vex. But he was still a Lover. And God knew it. That’s why mercy met him—not just to rescue him, but to recommission him.

Threading It All Together

We’re not just talking about mercy as a blanket. We’re talking about targeted mercy—covenant mercy—mercy for those who love Him, even when they limp, lag, or lie low. Jonah didn’t despise the covenant. He struggled with its implications. And that’s the kind of Lover God keeps mercy for.

I woke up this morning struggling with the tension betwwen "keeping mercy for thousands" as opposed to "died without mercy" and lovers that keep vs lovers that break, and non-lovers that keep (if they can) and non-lovers that break. And I said let me untangle that. 

The Core Tension: Mercy Kept vs. Mercy Denied

Exodus 34:7 says God “keeps mercy for thousands,” yet Hebrews 10:28 declares that those who despised Moses’ law “died without mercy.” That’s not contradiction—it’s covenantal calibration.

God’s mercy is not indiscriminate. It’s relational, responsive, and reverent. It flows toward those who love Him and keep His commandments—not perfectly, but covenantally. And when mercy is withheld, it’s not because God is cruel—it’s because the covenant has been despised, not just broken.

 Four Archetypes

Let’s lay out the categories like a theological quadrants chart:

TypeLove for God       Obedience       God’s Response

Lover who keeps✅        Yes✅           YesMercy kept, covenant affirmed

Lover who breaks✅      Yes❌           No (at times)      Mercy extended,                                                                                            restoration pursued

Non-lover who keeps❌ No✅         Yes (externally)No covenantal                                                                                            intimacy; obedience is hollow

Non-lover who breaks❌ No❌      NoJudgment, mercy withheld

 

This is not just about behavior—it’s about posture. The lover who breaks may stumble, but he’s still facing God. The non-lover who keeps may look righteous, but he’s facing himself.

 

Jonah: The Running Lover

Jonah is your wild card. He feared God, ran from God, and still received mercy. Why? Because he was a lover in conflict, not a rebel in contempt. His disobedience was reluctant, not defiant. And God’s mercy chased him—not because Jonah was perfect, but because Jonah was covenantally tethered.

 

Mercy Is Covenant-Bound

Mercy is not a blanket—it’s a covering. It’s kept for those who are in relationship, even if they’re limping. That’s why Achan, Zimri, and Nadab died without mercy—they didn’t just sin, they despised the covenant.

Mercy flows toward the humble and contrite, not the hardened. Toward the struggler, not the scorner.

Trini Echo

It’s like Granny saying, “I go forgive yuh if yuh slip, but doh come in here cussin and slammin door like yuh own the place.” Mercy is relational. It’s not automatic—it’s activated by love and reverence.

Final Synthesis: Mercy Is a Mirror

God’s mercy reflects the heart that seeks Him. It’s not earned—but it’s not mocked, either. The lover who breaks is still in the dance. The non-lover who keeps commandments is just miming the moves.

Jesus said, "If you love me Keep my commandments". Is Jesus saying "keeping his commandments is an accompaniment of love or is it a consequence of Love, or something else. What think ye?

That line from John 14:15—“If you love me, keep my commandments”—is deceptively simple, but it’s loaded with covenantal weight, relational nuance, and a touch of divine psychology.

Let’s unpack it in layers:

Linguistic & Grammatical Insight

  • The Greek construction uses a conditional clause: “If you love me” (ἐὰν ἀγαπᾶτέ με), followed by an imperative: “keep my commandments” (τὰς ἐντολὰς τὰς ἐμὰς τηρήσατε).

  • This isn’t merely descriptive—it’s prescriptive. Jesus isn’t observing what love looks like; He’s commanding what love must entail.

Theological Possibilities

1. Accompaniment of Love

This view says obedience is a natural companion to love. Like melody and harmony, they’re distinct but inseparable. If you truly love Jesus, obedience will organically flow—not forced, but fruit-bearing.

Think: covenantal fidelity. Love births loyalty.

2. Consequence of Love

Here, love is the cause, and obedience the effect. You don’t obey to prove love—you love, and obedience follows as a consequence. It’s not transactional; it’s transformational.

Think: “Love the Lord your God… and walk in His ways” (Deut 10:12). The heart leads the feet.

3. Proof of Love

Jesus may be offering a litmus test. Not to shame, but to clarify: “Don’t just say you love me—show it.” In this sense, obedience becomes the evidence of authentic love.

Think: covenantal accountability. Love that doesn’t manifest in action is sentiment, not sanctity.

 

Cultural & Relational Resonance

In Trini terms, it’s like saying: “If yuh really love meh, doh just sweet talk—show meh in yuh actions.” Jesus isn’t asking for lip service; He’s calling for embodied devotion.

My Synthesis (Buddy-style)

I’d say Jesus is weaving all three together: love births obedience, obedience proves love, and both are covenantal companions. It’s not a checklist—it’s a relational rhythm. The command isn’t cold law—it’s warm invitation. Jesus is saying, “Let your love be alive, not abstract. Let it walk, not just talk.”

 If obedience were merely a consequence of love, then Jesus might have said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments”—which some translations do render. But the Greek  is unmistakably imperative, not indicative. That changes the game.

So what does the imperative imply?

Not just consequence—but covenantal requirement

Jesus isn’t saying, “Love will naturally lead to obedience” (though that may be true). He’s saying, “If you claim love, then obedience must follow”—as a demanded response, not a passive result. This is covenantal language, not sentimental poetry.

 

Theological Implication: Love as Covenant, Not Emotion

  • Love is not merely affective; it’s a relational allegiance.

  • Obedience is not an optional fruit; it’s required fidelity.

  • The imperative makes obedience a condition of covenantal integrity, not just a byproduct of affection.

So yes—Jesus is requiring obedience as the proof and practice of love. Not because love automatically produces obedience, but because true love must be expressed in covenantal loyalty. Otherwise, it’s just noise.

Cultural Echo (Trini-style)

It’s like a mother saying, “If yuh love meh, doh disrespect meh in front of people.” She’s not waiting to see if love will naturally produce respect—she’s demanding that love be shown through action. That’s relational accountability.

Scholarly Echo

One commentary notes that Jesus’ use of “commands” here isn’t just about rules—it’s about the whole ethos of His teaching: love, mercy, justice, humility. So obedience isn’t legalism—it’s alignment with the heart of Christ.

Is it possible to Love God and not keep his commandments?

Scriptural Witness: What Does the Text Say?

The apostle John doesn’t mince words:

“For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.” — 1 John 5:3

That’s not just poetic—it’s definitional. John equates love for God with obedience. Not as a consequence, not as a companion, but as the substance of love itself.

Another source puts it bluntly:

“Can you love God without keeping His commands? John would answer that question with a resounding NO.”

So biblically speaking, love divorced from obedience is not love at all—at least not in the covenantal sense.

1. Emotional Affection vs. Covenant Allegiance

Someone may feel deep affection for God—gratitude, awe, even reverence—but if that affection doesn’t translate into obedient alignment, Scripture suggests it’s incomplete. It’s like saying “I love my spouse” but constantly betraying the marriage vows.

In covenantal terms, love is not just feeling—it’s fidelity.

2. Human Frailty vs. Rebellion

There’s a difference between:

  • The believer who struggles to obey but longs to please God (think: Peter).

  • And the one who refuses to obey while claiming love (think: Judas).

The former is covered by grace and growth. The latter? That’s where the warning bells ring.

3. Progressive Revelation of Love

Sometimes, people begin with affection and grow into obedience. Their love is immature, not absent. Like a child who loves their parent but doesn’t yet understand the rules. In this case, love is real but incomplete—and God, in His mercy, draws them deeper.

Trini Metaphor Time

It’s like saying, “I love meh granny, but I doh listen when she tell me doh lime late.” Granny would say, “Yuh love meh? Then show meh.” That’s covenantal love—not just sweet talk, but sweet walk.

Your Covenant Lens

 Could we say that love without obedience breaks covenant, even if it retains sentiment? That true covenantal love must be embodied, not just emoted?

And if so… might this be the very tension Jesus was addressing in John 14:15—not just calling for love, but defining it by obedience?

​Understanding Commandment Keeping

There is a difference between "not have kept his commandments" or "having broken his commandments" as opposed to "keeping on breaking his commandments".  Like he that is born of God does not practice sin.(1 John 3:9).

It is not just the act of sin, but the trajectory of the soul.  There is  a crucial distinction between:

  • Occasional failure ("not having kept" or "having broken"), and

  • Habitual rebellion ("keeping on breaking" or "practicing sin").

Scripture declares:

📖 1 John 3:9 — The Practice vs. the Incident

“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, because God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.” (ESV, emphasis mine)

This isn’t about sinlessness—it’s about sin trajectory. The Greek verb hamartanei here is in the present continuous tense, implying ongoing, habitual action. So John isn’t saying the born-again believer never stumbles—he’s saying they don’t settle into sin as a lifestyle.

Theological Breakdown

🔹 “Not have kept” or “have broken”

  • These imply moments of failure, lapses, or even ignorance.

  • They may be repented of, and do not necessarily indicate a rebellious heart. Think: David with Bathsheba—he broke the commandment, but did not practice adultery.

🔹 “Keeping on breaking” / “Practicing sin”

  • This implies willful, sustained disobedience.

  • It’s not just falling—it’s walking in the opposite direction.

  • Think: King Saul’s repeated defiance—he didn’t just stumble, he persisted in rebellion.

🧩 Covenant Lens: Fidelity vs. Infidelity

In covenantal terms:  A spouse who fails once and repents may still be faithful. A spouse who keeps cheating is not just unfaithful—they’re breaking a covenant. So when John says “he that is born of God does not practice sin,” he’s saying: “The seed of divine covenant within you will not allow you to make sin your home.”

Trini Metaphor Time

It’s like Granny saying, “Yuh might slip and cuss once, but if yuh cussin every day, yuh heart not right.” The occasional slip is human. The habitual pattern? That’s a heart issue.  Many believers live under shame for past failures, not realizing Scripture distinguishes between brokenness and rebellion not realizing : That repentance restores, That habitual sin reveals deeper dislocation, and That God’s seed within us is a sanctifying force, not just a moral compass

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